

Nina (far right)

Art by Brian Lipko
Portishead, TV on the Radio, The Decemberists, Clap Your Hands Say Yeah, and Animal Collective share something with this band. It may be hard to belive that, seeing as none of these bands have too much in common in their own right, but all of these artists have managed to take the “unconventional” and turn it into something endearing that you want to hear over and over again. Basically, when you first hear it, giant “What the fuck?” may cross your mind, but over some period of time (varies by degree of iPod shufflage) you begin to like them. And, if you’re like me, you ebgin to like them a lot. That’s what Rings has done to me, much like the bands mentioned before. These three artists have managed to put together what some may call “the avant-guardist’s dream”; which is to make art that sounds like it has never been heard before (but not sounding like shit). We’ll have more on Rings in the discovered section, but for now, let’s focus on our interview with Nina Mehta (pictured here in the far right).
Chris: First off, could you tell us something about Rings? There’s not a lot on the internet.
Nina: Well, what do you to know? It’s hard to say…
Chris: Well, where’d the name come from. I know you guys switched the name, right?
Nina: Yeah, we switched the name. It’s really hard when you’re trying to be super-intentionally collaborative about a lot of things [especially] to agree on name. Well, at least for us. A lot of us had not been agreement about the last name. so, it was really important for us to kind of come to some common ground, but we were gonna call the album “Rings”. That’s just what the name of the band ended up being. After weeks of going back and forth between many different names, we were like: “You know what? This was the one thing that was definite and it could change for the next record, or it could change in the future…whatever.” And it also reflected, you know, the circuitous process of the name finding; as well as, the music making, and the ways we relate to each other, and things like that. So, it may be a little bit too neat of name, but it’s cool for now.
Chris: It is the hardest to find on the internet, though.
Nina: I know. nobody can find it, ever.
Chris: Searching for the name I came across a lot of Kay’s Jeweler’s.
Nina: Yeah…
Chris: What’s your approach to music.
Nina: I don’t think I have one single approach to music, but I think my approach in the bad is, again, really being collaborative, really being open, and really not having fixed ideas or ideals. Because I think there’s a place for that and I hope in the music I would make by myself or with other people there’d be different intentions and different approaches, but I think with this band… with the ways we relate to each other it’s about being really open/communicative; it’s about hanging out… being friends.
Chris: You’re scaring me. It’s almost seems like you’re making Rings a fluid concept.
Nina: No….
Chris: Like it could fall apart at any moment.
Nina: Well, it could.
[I tear up a little inside...]
Nina: But it could always be built back up. It’s really strong. Our friendships are super, super strong. The way we relate to each other is super strong, but it’s flexible. So, that doesnt mean it’s, ya know, falling apart. It just means that
Chris: Your music promotes the idea to create something new, but… I’m not gonna lie. I had a hard time when I first listened to your album. But that’s just because I never heard anything like it before… literally. And that’s hard to say. I’m curious because I read an article in Village Voice about how you have exude the “Avant Guardists’ Dream”. In which it sounds like music is being made for the first time. Is that an intention or does it come out of collaborating?
Nina: Yeah. It’s not intentional. I think we’re all really critical in some ways or whatever. I think we’re always pushing ourselves and we’re always trying to break apart things we think are easy or make “sense”. I don’t think there’s any intention of doing things for the “first time” or doing things in a unique way. I know it sounds naive, but it’s really just about us feeling or whatever. Of course, there’s a lot of intension or thought in the process, but there’s not an intention to be avant-guardists, but just to be critical. To think passed our blocks or something.
Chris: How was the New York concert?
Nina: It was so weird. It wasn’t a great show. We kind of never got into it. I think we’re really sensitive to environments and what’s going on with each other. We haven’t been playing music together, the three of us, in a while.
Chris: Have you guys ever been on tour?
Nina: Abbey and I were just in LA playing music without Kate. She didn’t come with us. And then, I don’t know… we played some shows together in the fall. Then in the Summer, they played some shows without me. And this Spring, Kate and I went on tour without Abbey. So, we’ve kind of. Since, last February or March we haven’t been playing much with the three of us, but we are starting again. But [back to the point] the venue was weird. There was, like, carpeted floor and college kids sitting on the floor. It was a weird environment. But it’s cool to do things like that. It’s cool to play at places that aren’t ideal and see how you react to them. We need to get better at not caring or not being as sensitive. I think it’s good for us to play weird venues in front of weird people.
Chris: With you going, hopefully, to London-
Nina: We’ll see. I’m not sure about that. I’m going to the interview to see if I love it. If I don’t love it, then Im not going. I would really have to love it. I have a lot of other things I’m involved in here.

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Chris: So, is music your one goal or is this something you do on the side?
Nina: It’s not my one goal, but it’s not my side thing either. When I’m doing it, I like to be in it, but I like doing other things too. I study anthropology.
Chris: Is art work or is work art… or is it either? Is it more of a job? I find that more independent bands almost see it as a job; as if, they could be working a dead end job in some cubicle, but instead, they picked up a guitar. And it comes at about the same pay. What do you think?
Nina: I don’t really know… those are both shifting. I don’t have expectations. I’m not trying to make money, but I want to keep doing it. I want to keep making art and making music. The reality of survival means I do need to make money in some ways; whether my other jobs or by putting more energy into this.
Chris: On a lighter note, is the femininity in your work intentional? Everytime I read an article it always having something about a feminist quality. I’m not sure if they’ve labeled you that because you’re women or you actually exude some kind of feminist view
Nina: I think the categories people put on it are their own, but I would say: sure. We each have our own connections to feminist thought as a political way of dealing with the world, but femininity is inevitable in some way. Whatever people’s ideas about what being feminine are I think we fit into a lot of those ideas.
Chris: Do you think there’s an objective way of looking at music as far as femininity goes?
Nina: Noooo. I hope not. I mean, objective? I want to reflect my experiences in life; my outlook. And it happens to be very much filled with experience of being a woman and having feminist politics and having feminine qualities.
Chris: In a male dominated world could a feminine, in general, view be seen as universal?
Nina: I think shifting the reference point is important, but not looking at that as an objective I think is really important for me, also. I want our reflection to be able to have a place in the world, but not in opposition to male-centric [view]. You know what I mean?
Chris: I understand.
Nina: It can’t be seen as in opposition or fighting or whatever. I think ideologically that would be less feminist. I think it’s approaching it differently and not seeing one as a stronger reference point.
Chris: When you guys do make music, how is the collaborative process?
Nina: It really comes out of just jamming together; liking something and telling each other we like it. I mean, it changes. Sometimes it’s more verbally communicative, other times it’s been more musically. There are times when one of us will have an idea and bring it in, but we bring it in knowing it’ll be changed and knowing that it’ll be maybe torn apart. We’ve definitely struggled with that; holding on to things or holding onto ideas we have about what we wanna make, but doing this together kind of means letting go of thata little bit and it definitely works out the best. We’re open to having a beat just changed I guess that’s why we haven’t writing as many songs; we haven’t been playing with each other as much as we did last year. We need to to be together more; we need to play together more.
Chris: We should send some sort of P.I. to make sure you guys make music.
Nina: You can come in and see us.
Chris: I’d love to. I’m really enamored by the fact that I had no idea what to do with [your music].
Nina: How did you find out about us?
Chris: Insound.com. I usually go on there and download whatever they have. One of them said “Rings” and it was the only thing I couldn’t find anything on. So, I had no idea what preference it would be or what genre… and when I downloaded it, I… I was confused, but in a good way. Kind of like TV on the Radio; as soon as you hear, you kind of don’t like it, but it grows on you. Do you ever feel to put in code in your music? If you consider your music art, that is.
Nina: Do I feel like encoding it?
Chris: Like, for people to understand.
Nina: The more people hear something, the more people read something the more they can fit it into their codes they already have or possibly expand it through recognition, you know? Through integrating slowly, but I guess for me I just want to keep on playing and keep on making things that maybe end up forming or adding on to whatever vocabulary we’re making or whatever influences we’re associating with. I think it is a lot about references and connections to other things.
Chris: That’s pretty interesting. What type?
Nina: There’s so many. I think we all try hard not to associate with really easy-
Chris: -I was gonna say that’s ironic because [your music] sounds like something so new. For you to have so much influence is really…
Nina: I mean influence as in, we all walk around and live and listen to things and that can all influence you, but it’s not about emulating or trying to be like that but it’s about connecting the things.
Chris: So, with your last name, did you grow up in traditional Indian household?
Nina: No, I wasn’t. My dad is Indian and I grew up in a mixed household. My mom is [from] New York; white, Jewish.
Chris: Second part Indian, part Jewish person I’ve met in two months.
Nina: Really? Interesting…
Chris: Good combination.
Nina: But, for sure, my dad influenced me in many ways. He didn’t really listen to Indian music. That came afterwards for me, I think. Probably that came, he married my stepmom when I was like 11 or 12, and she listened to Bollywood soundtracks or Hindi music and traditional religious music sometimes. So, I think that started coming into my life.
Chris: Well, what was the day you were like: I definitely need to make music?
Nina: I don’t know. I definitely don’t remember the day. I always thought about music and always was connected to music in some way, but definitely not in any kind of serious way. I guess what happened into North Carolina for a job when I was like, I don’t know, when I was 24. It was an awesome job, but I was far away from my friends and far away from people that I experienced music with and played music with… I pretty much decided I would leave North Carolina to New York and put more attention into making music. Kate and I had been sort of talking and we would jam a little bit. Like, super simply: singing or playing guitar or something. And when I came back from North Carolina we started to play more. So, I guess that would be the moment. It was making the decision to not have a job or career path that would give me less time to do music.
Chris: Is there any priority in music as far a life goes or as far as your career can be?
Nina: There is a priority. I feel like I need to keep on doing it as long as I can keep doing it. Right now, I feel like I can make music. There’s people I can make music with, there’s people around me who are making music. I think that it’s important to do the things that are happening around you because they reflect the choices you made and the things you care about. I’ve always sort of cared about many different things, but I guess these last few years putting more time into music does reflect certain ways I want to live creatively, as far as art and work stuff. I feel like it’s a good way to live creatively; to feel like you’re reflecting… like your experiences or your relationships or something. I think, for sure, our band reflects the interactions I have right now at this time in my life and I think that’s real important to have that be; to put energy into that.
Chris: In a perfect world, I wish everyone could do that.
Nina: For sure, I need and want to do other things, but I think it is also about how much attention you put [into it]. Even if I only have two hours a week to play or something; if those two hours are really mind expanding or really important they could end up taking more time, memory, or my experience of that week. So, it’s also about prioritization.
Chris: Is it a hard thing to balance?
Nina: Sometimes, totally. It’s been really hard for me. Like this last year, I was really intense with school and just didn’t have time at all for music.
Chris: Where do you attend school at?
Nina: But I’m leaving there, now. I’m leaving in May.
Chris: So, you’re graduating soon?
Nina: Yeah. I’m taking one credit, now. So, I’m kind of coming to my end. I’m not doing my ph.d anymore. I thought I was going to; I thought I was going to. And this is all in some ways, because I do want to be able to still do music in my life.
Chris: Doctor and musician.
Nina: Yeah, well… this particular program wouldn’t let me do that, so I’m not doing it.
Chris: Would’ve been nice, though.
Nina: Yeah.
Chris: Would’ve been a good story to tell.
Nina: Maybe one day…
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